Ian The link line-wrapped in the email. I did not check it after it posted. Matt Johnson has quite a few on his V15-65 and his sailing/pedal cat here: http://www.youtube.com/user/svtolfea This one shows the stability while boarding from dock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGA49SxWXTM Rick Willoughby rickwill at bigpond.net.au